Do you need a low oxalate diet?
Who does?
Who does not?
How can you tell?
I chose the gorgeous painting by Raphael that hangs in the Musée Condé Chantilly because three surpasses one.
Who Needs Low Oxalate Diet?
Most of all, those whose stones contain calcium oxalate crystals and urine oxalate enough to promote such stones.
Less so those with systemic diseases – bowel disease, malabsorption syndrome, bariatric surgery, and primary hyperoxaluria – that raise urine oxalate. Their diseases require many treatments, only one of them low oxalate diet.
Therefore, I write here for only patients without a systemic cause of stones.
Do Your Stones Contain Calcium Oxalate?
If your stones contain little or no calcium oxalate crystals, and urine oxalate itself poses no danger to your kidneys, low oxalate diet is silly.
On the other hand, if your stones do contain calcium oxalate crystals, how much? Traces of the crystal, less than 10 percent, hardly bring it to the foreground. Even 20 percent is marginal. Above 10 or 20 percent calcium oxalate crystals in stones, consider lowering urine oxalate if high enough to raise risk of stones.
If you do not know what crystals make up your stones, struggle to find old analyses. Send all new stones for analysis. Stone prevention means crystal prevention. Stones are made from crystals. How can you prevent what you do not know?
But if all this fails, assume your stones contain calcium oxalate crystals because they are the most common kind. Even then, keep trying to get a stone analysed; you have built your treatment on a rickety foundation because a guess is just a guess.
Does Urine Oxalate Raise Your Risk for Stones?
It Does in General
In Gary Curhan’s wonderful study, the three bars represent two female (red) and one male cohort observed for decades. Some became stone formers, most did not. Twenty four hour urine samples drawn from both groups permit calculation of the risk from urine oxalate.
When below 25 mg/day urine oxalate poses no increased stone risk vs. even less than 20 mg/d. Thereafter, risk rises with urine oxalate, and low oxalate diet can contribute to stone prevention if stones contain significant amounts of calcium oxalate crystals.
Although Curhan had no stone analyses, calcium oxalate – being most common – would have predominated by chance. This is why if you do not know what your stones are made of, and your doctor has no clue either – from seeing them, or from observations during surgery, you can make the same assumption Curhan made and guess calcium oxalate predominates.
It May In You
Avoid circularity. That urine oxalate levels exceed, for example, 30 mg/day, does not raise the probability that calcium oxalate crystals comprise a majority of your stones.
It is when calcium oxalate crystals make up a significant proportion of your stone crystals – over 20 percent as a first approximation, or when you have no idea what your stones are made of but employ the Curhan conjecture favoring calcium oxalate that urine oxalate excretion matters. When above 25 mg/d you have a reason to lower it.
Be careful here. Follow the logic. Keep that oxalate list in the drawer for now and think about what you just read. If the trail of ‘ifs’ lead you on to urine oxalate as a suspect and you are in the right group – no systemic diseases, no kidney risk from oxalate according to your physician – continue reading.
Raise Your Diet Calcium
Here, I am repeating material that is in another article that has its own video. I do this to integrate that material with the richer treatment of diet, stone analysis, and urine oxalate analysis presented here. The linked article details how to best manage diet calcium and sodium, the present article gives the details in a larger context.
Diet Calcium Lowers Urine Oxalate
To illustrate the effects of diet calcium I have gathered average urine oxalate and diet calcium figures from multiple research papers named by senior author.
Dot size shows mean diet oxalate – the largest 200 mg/day, smallest 50, and middle 100 mg/day.
In each study raising diet calcium lowered urine oxalate. Diet oxalate itself had little effect.
The small box at the upper right shows an extreme experiment. Eating 2,000 mg/d of diet oxalate and 1,200 mg of calcium, subjects excreted 80 mg/d of oxalate. Despite the massive diet oxalate, enough diet calcium – 4,000 mg/d lowered urine oxalate to 30 mg/d.
Be careful. No one wants to eat that much calcium. The experiment simply aimed to make a point. My point is you eat 1,000 to 1,200 mg of diet calcium, and be done with it.
In other words, for any reasonable range of diet oxalate, diet calcium strongly controls urine oxalate. For that reason, measure the urine oxalate during high calcium diet and decide if low calcium diet remains important.
Diet Calcium Protects Bone Mineral
Even without stones we should want abundant diet calcium. Based on thorough reviews of mineral balance USDA and its scientific advisors recommend 1,000 to 1,200 mg of diet calcium daily for all US people as a benefit to bone health.
Because idiopathic hypercalciuria affects a majority of calcium stone formers they benefit especially from high calcium diet. Some people with IH cannot maintain bone mineral balance even on the high calcium intakes recommended for normal people. Less than high calcium diet poses risk of bone disease in later life.
Diet Calcium Should Come From Food
Like most people, stone formers without systemic diseases do well with just dairy products and need no supplements. Industry makes them sans lactose, sans fat, in all the forms diet restrictions require. One might say the 1,000 or 1,200 mg of diet calcium best comes by parts in all the meals. If so, diet oxalate will encounter diet calcium by chance most of the time, so calcium can reduce oxalate absorption and thence urine oxalate excretion.
What About Supplements?
Like with high calcium foods, calcium from supplements lowers absorption of oxalate when they meet during a meal. No meal, they serve no purpose. Worse, they can raise urine calcium and risk of stone.
Lower Your Diet Sodium
If high urine oxalate raises risk of stones, so does high urine calcium. Both count. But raising diet calcium can raise urine calcium. So if all you do is eat more calcium you may not stop forming stones. You need to do one other key thing.
The trick, the smart move, the center of the center: Keep diet sodium as low as possible.
Red dots are normal people, blue stone formers with idiopathic hypercalciuria. For both, urine calcium rises with urine sodium, and urine sodium – more or less – reflects diet sodium intake. Each dot represents an entire published study group.
Modern diet recommendations for US people consider 100 mEq/d (2,300 mg) of sodium the tolerable upper limit. These diet guidelines do not concern stones but rather high blood pressure and bone disease, but even so fit well with our needs. You would want to lower your diet sodium below 2,300 mg/d even if you formed no stones, for your blood pressure and general bone health.
In fact, the ideal diet sodium is far below 2,300 mg, at 1,500 mg – or 65 mEq if you prefer.
With care for diet sodium, high calcium intake need not raise urine calcium and certainly will lower urine oxalate. Lower urine oxalate without any rise in urine calcium means a fall in stone risk and therefore fewer stones long term.
Low Oxalate Diet Seems Easier
What?
He tells me to obsess about my stone crystals, raise my diet calcium, and lower my diet sodium. Two diet changes!
Why not just lower diet oxalate in the first place and be done?
Low Oxalate Diet Serves Only One Purpose
Low oxalate diet provides no health benefits apart from stone prevention. The highest oxalate foods, some dark green leaves, have good nutritional value. No data support diet oxalate as cause of any significant diseases apart from kidney stones. If you need to rely only on low oxalate diet to lower your urine oxalate then the diet may need to be very strict and restrictive of otherwise good foods. Higher diet calcium makes it easier and allows for greater variety.
Low Oxalate Diet Has Never Been Tried as a Stone Prevention
No one has yet published evidence that low oxalate diet itself prevents calcium oxalate stones. At most, trials of other agents or diets have specified some restrictions of diet oxalate.
High Calcium Low Sodium Diet Prevents Stones
US diet recommendations favor low sodium and higher calcium to prevent hypertension and bone disease. One formal trial proved this kind of diet prevents calcium oxalate stones.
That trial showed that a high calcium, low sodium diet reduced calcium oxalate stone recurrence in men with idiopathic hypercalciuria.
Over five years, stones were less (solid line) in men asked to eat 1200 mg of calcium, 200 mg oxalate, 65 mEq of sodium compared to men eating 400 mg/d of calcium, unrestricted sodium and oxalate (dashed line). The 200 mg of diet oxalate in the high calcium group was achieved simply by excluding very high oxalate foods like spinach and nuts.
Although diet calcium was twice as high, urine calcium in the low sodium group was the same as that of the low calcium controls (5.9 vs. 6.2 mmol/d). Even though diet oxalate was 200 mg/day, not very low, urine oxalate was lower in the high calcium group (333 vs. 411 umol/day – about 35 vs 43 mg/d) and it is this reduction that reduced supersaturation and presumably new stones.
So low oxalate diet has no trial but high calcium, low sodium diet has one trial, a positive one at that.
Low Oxalate Diet is Not Easy to Follow
I know that from the many comments on this site, from decades of practice, too. One can lower diet oxalate. Those who form calcium oxalate stones are well advised to be wary of high oxalate intake. But why strive to go below 200 mg of diet oxalate when you can just eat more calcium and less sodium which helps your bones and your blood pressure? Let us make that diet – higher calcium, lower sodium our goal. With it, you need not so much a ‘very low’ as a moderately low – 200 mg – oxalate diet and that may be enough.
An Important Oxalate Authority Recommends a Lower Goal
Despite the one trial, Dr Ross Holmes favors somewhat less daily oxalate.
He wrote on this site: ‘Hi Dr. Coe. I think you have been too cavalier in setting 200 mg oxalate as an appropriate target oxalate intake. Several studies in individuals eating controlled diets with adequate amounts of calcium have shown that the average amount absorbed is 8% with about half of that occurring rapidly in the small intestine. That is about 8 mg of oxalate that will flood the kidney within an hour or two after ingestion. Those great studies of Dr. Curhan that you have often mentioned show that this amount of oxalate in urine will substantially increase the risk of forming stones.’ (italics added for clarity).
Essentially Ross makes this point. The immediate inflow of oxalate from a 200 mg/day diet – if all 200 mg were eaten in one meal – could flood the urine with as much as 8 mg of oxalate in an hour or two (1/2 of 8% of 200 mg). That flooding could produce transient high urine oxalate concentrations. High diet calcium might not prevent such a happening. A lower goal of 100 mg offers what he might call an extra margin.
Ross is a wonderful scientist whose work has informed oxalate research for decades. So I tend to respond to what he says.
The transient flooding – stone risk mechanism presumably affected the Borghi trial. Flooding would matter less if one avoids eating all 200 mg of oxalate in one meal. But even so, I accept his comment and suggest that 100 to 200 mg is perhaps preferable to a simple 200 mg goal- with care to avoid eating all of it in one meal.
Let Us Focus Elsewhere and Better
High calcium, low sodium, and moderate oxalate seems the best plan. There is a trial of it. Three separate factors all point at stone reduction. Two of them, low sodium and high calcium confer health benefits beyond stone disease. As part of a threesome, diet oxalate lessens in intensity. The ‘list’ needs contain only the highest oxalate foods. The budget of 200 mg/day is large enough to permit considerable freedom.
More important than everything I have said so far. Do not begin with a reach for the oxalate list. The list at best adds value for some patients. You may not be that patient. You may not have an oxalate problem at all. If you do, higher diet calcium and lower sodium may solve your problem with a minimal effort toward diet oxalate.
Put your money on the high cards, on the best horses, the best teams.
In case you wonder about the three goddesses, it is for the three fold plan: Higher diet calcium, lower diet sodium, moderate diet oxalate. Not so pretty as they are, but good enough.
83 Responses to “WHY EAT A LOW OXALATE DIET?”
Julie Judes
Dear Dr. Coe,
Would you please tell me if these two ingredients are high oxalate:
1. soy lecithin
2. cocoa butter
Thank you very much.
Joe
One thing that confuses me is that those who advocate high calcium from dairy and also advocate low-protein never address the fact that increasing dairy also means increasing protein, which in turn increases urine oxalate. Also, as an alternative to dairy, I started taking a modest amount of plant-based (marine algae) calcium with oxalate- rich meals and my calcium level on a 24 hr test shot WAY up, presumably increasing my risk. No binding with oxalate in the gut the way it’s supposed to??
Fredric L Coe, MD
Hi Joe, milk protein is rather a good actor in that oxalate does not seem to rise with it. Partly, the protein composition is not like meat and fish. Partly there is a lot of calcium per the amount of protein. As for algae, I do not know the form of the calcium. Perhaps it is as the carbonate which would be rapidly absorbed whereas milk calcium is absorbed more slowly because milk contains a lot of both protein and fat but also phosphate. Regards, Fred Coe
Robin P Clarke
I read that the oxalate comes specifically from glycine rather than protein in general, and then only if B6 is deficient. So agreeing with Dr Coe here.
Nikki
I’ve read contradictory info on the oxalates in both broccoli and blueberries. My nephrologist said yes to broccoli and no to blueberries. Your list says raspberries are far worse than blueberries. I eat broccoli every night. Thank you.
Glen Stevens
Hi Nikki,
I’ve read much the same. On this website https://www.arizonadigestivehealth.com/low-oxalate-diet/ it says that Zucchini, blueberries, brocolli, brussel sprouts and oatmeal are all very high whereas Jill Harris’ book says they’re all very low. What’s going on. Help, I dont know what to eat i’m going crazy.
Brett
It seems like you’re missing the point of the article. Namely, oxalate is NOT nearly as important as low sodium and correct calcium. Stop worrying about oxalate, unless you’re still having stones after getting your sodium and calcium (and 2.5+ liters of liquids) correct.
Robin P Clarke
Oxalates diet info is very confused. Raspberries have lots of oxalate in the seeds, but few people chew the seeds so it is irrelevant.
jharris
Hi Robin,
Yes, it is all confusing. Watch this from my YouTube channel and you will be clear. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfMnRhiiKx4&t=92s
Jill
kidneystonediet.com
Diane Newman
Dear Dr.Coe,
Thank you for this great information. While I am not a kidney stone former, I have Polycystic Kidney Disease with normal renal function. It is my guess, that there won’t be human studies most likely, in my lifetime, that will produce a diet that may help people like me. There are very promising lab results in animal studies that you may be familiar with. So far, learning about a lower oxalate diet your information seems the most helpful.
Fredric L Coe
Hi Diane, There is something important to do about APCKD: Very high fluid intake to suppress the hormone vasopressin, which has been improved using a recently approved drug. I would suggest you try to find physicians near you with a special interest in this condition. Oxalate seems of little importance, so far as I know. Regards, Fred Coe
Jennifer Matthews
I formed my first stone after cutting out dairy from my diet because it makes me constipated. I have tried to re-introduce it with no success. I’m thinking of taking calcium citrate with my meals. thoughts? Thanks!
Fredric L Coe
Hi Jennifer, High calcium is part of a good diet for stone prevention. Here is the entire diet, as just more calcium by itself may not be ideal. Regards, Fred Coe
Gail Fernandez
I have been told that potassium citrate, magnesium, and b6 taken together helps break up stones and also lowers the acidity in urine. My urine tests always shows high acidity no matter how much I drink. And so far have had two Uric stones. Have you heard of this helping. This site is the best and helped my husband with his calcium oxalate stones. Thank you for all your time and effort helping people. Your a blessing.
Fredric L Coe
Hi Gail, Since you have uric acid stones and low urine pH potassium citrate is indeed your only real treatment. Here are articles on uric acid stones, one fancy and one simple. Magnesium has no relevance at all. Get on treatment and uric acid stones must stop. Regards, Fred Coe
Alandra
Do you know if drinking apple cinder vinegar provides any benefits for kidney stones? Also thank you for the information on this site it’s very helpful
Frederic L Coe
Hi Alandra, I know of some interest in it but no data. I cannot recommend it. Regards, Fred Coe
Jason
Where can I get a more thorough analysis of my stones? Here in Canada, labs only report if the stones contain oxalate etc., they do not report the percentage.
Fredric Coe, MD
Hi Jason, Offering percentages is a debated topic. Usually IR spectra are used to analyse stones, and they do give percentages but rather approximate. My concern is when calcium phosphate is predominant, even when it is above 20% or more, because it suggests plugging of kidney tubules and makes prevention more urgent. Perhaps if asked the lab can give you more information. Within Canada I do not know which lab does what, unfortunately. You could send stones to the US and pay yourself; it is not very expensive. Regards, Fred Coe
Jason
My lab results here in Canada only stated that my stones are mixed calcium oxalate and phosphate, but what does this really mean? Which is more predominate or does it really matter?
Fredric Coe, MD
Hi Jason, THe other fraction may be calcium phosphate. I cannot tell. But whatever it is, prevention requires more than the stone analysis. Here is a reasonable starting place. Regards, Fred Coe
Claire Drucker
I so appreciate the information you’ve gathered here, and I especially appreciate the art and how that relates to the medical advice. My girlfriend and I have been searching the net for guidance on kidney health, and yours is the best one we’ve found so far. Thank you so much!
Fredric Coe, MD
Thank you, Claire; I am happy the site is useful to you both. Regards, Fred Coe