MeA Remarkable Concordance

From 1980 to now the US government has published diet recommendations for the American peopleGradually and over time these have become quantitative and specify amounts of critical nutrients such as calcium, sodium, refined sugar, protein, and potassium – as alkaline anions in mainly fruits and vegetables. The goals are reduction of osteoporosis, hypertension, obesity, and diabetes. I shall call this the Ideal US Diet.

Surprisingly, though aimed at stone prevention and management of bone disease from idiopathic hypercalciuria, decades of kidney stone research have identified precisely the same diet. Even more surprising, the Diet Against Systolic Hypertension (DASH) diet resembles the current Recommended US Diet, and stone researchers have found a reduced risk of stone disease in people who eat ‘DASH – Like’ diets.

Is it possible we have come upon the Ur diet?

Research on three different problems – kidney stones, systolic hypertension, and healthy eating all end up with the same basic diet plan; is that plan the solution to an ancient riddle?

Ur diet or not, experts advise all Americans, hypertensive or not to eat the ideal stone prevention diet. Any stone patient can be advised to eat it, after even a single stone. You do not even need a stone.

Here is the science that says any stone former is well off eating this remarkable diet.

The other articles on the diet and the article on treatment of idiopathic calcium stone formers are good additions.

‘Still Life with Cheeses’, Floris Claesz Van Dijck, 1610, shows how healthy diets are not so modern. Note the fruits. The painter was well known for banquet still life paintings in which he pioneered. 

Shared Features of the Kidney Stone and Ideal US Diets

The Principle Components

In the table, under the middle heading ‘TREATMENT’, ‘high’ and ‘low’ refer to changes from what is common now in the US but considered ideal as a future norm.

For the general health of the US nation, high calcium diet helps maintain bone mineral; low sodium intake and high table-of-treatments-by-healthy-diet-vs-stone-research-dietpotassium intake reduce blood pressure; low refined sugar helps stave off obesity and diabetes. A reasonable range of protein intake maintains nitrogen balance without imposing unneeded calories. Apart from potassium, fruits and vegetables provide high nutrient value with modest calorie costs.

Because idiopathic hypercalciuria causes negative bone mineral balance at present calcium intakes, high calcium diet can protect against fractures.

High calcium diet reduces absorption of diet oxalate so restriction of intake can be less onerous.

Low sodium intake reduces urine calcium, and also aids in achieving bone mineral uptake.

Refined sugar causes spikes of high urine calcium excretion that are best avoided.

Excessive protein intake raises urine calcium.

Diet potassium from fruits and vegetables is mainly potassium with organic anions that can be metabolized to bicarbonate and therefore increase urine citrate. 

Oxalate and Fluids

Oxalate is important only for kidney stones but the healthy diet helps because high calcium intake lowers oxalate absorption. Rather than begin with cumbersome food oxalate lists I suggest patients raise their calcium intakes and then get a new 24 hour urine collection. Often urine oxalate will no longer pose stone risk. If it does despite high calcium intake and timing of high calcium foods or calcium supplements with meals, then is time enough for the lists.

I am quite the opposite about fluids. Any stone former is wise to achieve 2.5 liters of urine volume daily, which usually means 3 liters of intake. Nothing can more precisely undo the urine supersaturation kidneys achieve by water conservation than fluids enough to obviate a need for them to do it.

Components Secondary to Stone Prevention

The US diet plan is rich in fruits and vegetables as a way of controlling calorie and fat intake, and offering alternatives to high sugar desserts. The diet also emphasizes reduced fat intake and especially saturated fat, limitations that are irrelevant to stone prevention.

But I advocate for using the intact diet as opposed to only those aspects of it related to stone prevention. It is a coherent plan of nutrition whose structure that may help people create and maintain desirable eating habits.

High Calcium Intake

Let me again emphasize: ‘High’ and ‘low’ in what follows compare the desired diet to what is the common pattern right now in the US.

nihms271156f1 bone fractures in stone formersIH Bone Disease

Stone formers fracture at abnormal rates. Among people living in Rochester, Minnesota, the cumulative incidence of vertebral fractures in people with stones (irregular line) exceeds the rate of fractures in the entire population (the smooth line) between 1950 and 1974. Hip and forearm did not fracture excessively.

One can find two reasons for such fractures. The first is idiopathic hypercalciuria. The second is self imposed or iatrogenic low calcium intake in hopes of stone prevention. The US health recommendations for 1000 to 1,200 mg of diet calcium daily arise from massive research showing such diets help prevent bone disease in large populations. It will help stone formers especially, because people with IH cannot maintain neutral bone calcium balance as well as average unselected people, at least in part because of inefficient renal calcium conservation.

retention vs calcium intake in mg per day with smoother means red is IH blue is normals

On the graph to the right those with IH are in red, those with normal urine calcium are in blue. ‘IH’ here is the research criterion of the upper 90th or 95th percentile of normal, so the urine calcium of the IH cases would approximate 250 and 300 mg of urine calcium daily for women and men, respectively. Even at calcium intakes of 1,200 mg/day the average calcium retention (red line) of those with IH thus defined barely reaches 0 – stable bone mineral content.

The US recommendations will hardly suffice for the most marked hypercalciuria and the lower calcium intakes in present use have the potential to cause bone mineral loss and eventual fractures.

Reduction of Urine Oxalate

Urine oxalate can rise because of genetic defects or bowel disease, which each have their own special place in stone prevention. But most people with stones have urine oxalate excretions dominated by diet oxalate content and intestinal oxalate absorption.

urine-oxalate-vs-diet-calcium-with-insertThis latter is dependent on diet calcium. In the graph to the left, diet calcium is on the x axis and urine oxalate on the y axis. Each point represents values from trial data in which diet calcium was altered and urine oxalate measured. Oxalate intake varied from 200 to 50 mg/d and the symbol size reflects it. The data for the trials are available from the main article I wrote about this topic. The names are those of the principal investigators.

As diet calcium increases, urine oxalate falls more or less independent of oxalate intake. At 1,200 mg, most points are between 25 and 35 mg/d.

This does not mean that we no longer need to be concerned with diet oxalate. But it does mean that the recommended US diet calcium intake of 1,200 mg/d lessens the needed stringency.

In the small inset box, Hess makes this point with considerable drama. He gave people 2,000 mg/d of oxalate, a shocking amount, with 1,200 mg/d of diet calcium. Despite the drastic diet oxalate excess, urine oxalate was only 80 mg/d – too high of course, but consider the intake. He raised the calcium intake to near 4,000 mg and brought the urine oxalate down to near 30 mg/d. This is a powerful demonstration of how diet calcium can more or less balance diet oxalate.

From the graph, we can say that at about 1,200 mg/d diet calcium, diet oxalate can be in the range of 100 to 200 mg/d which is not very restricted. The exact relationship between urine oxalate and diet oxalate on this 1,200 mg/d diet might well be quantified by another trial, which could be of moderate duration.

Low Sodium Diet

Lowers Urine Calcium

One would be correct in saying that high diet calcium will increase urine calcium but the lower sodium content of the kidney stone diet will lower urine calcium and permit URINE CA VS NA WITH ALL DATA FROM ELAINE AND I COMBINEDhigh diet calcium that protects bone and lowers urine oxalate.

Urine calcium varies with urine sodium in normal people – the red circles and triangles on the graph to the right. But the variation is much more marked for people with IH (blue circles and triangles) as defined by 95th percentiles as mentioned above. Circles denote prospective trials in which diet sodium was deliberately varied, triangles observational data. The non parametric ellipses contain 66% of the data.

Because the difference between IH and normal is in the slope, as diet sodium falls and lowers urine sodium – more or less, urine sodium is diet sodium on average – the two curves come together. A formal analysis of the slope difference is in the detailed article that presents these data.

At the US diet upper boundary of 100 mEq/d (2,300 mg/d) diet sodium, urine calcium in IH begins to overlap in part with normals. At what has been called optimal (65 mEq/d or 1,500 mg/d) diet sodium, the overlap is even better.

A single but well done trial of 1,200 mg calcium and 50 meq/d sodium (they actually ate about 120 mEq/d on average) was much more effective in preventing stones than was a low calcium high sodium diet – 400 mg/d calcium and uncontrolled sodium which was about 200 mEq – a diet that many people may be eating in the US today. More to the point, the urine calcium excretion of those eating 400 mg calcium and 200 mEq of sodium was the same as those eating 1,200 mg of calcium and 120 mEq of sodium. All of the subjects were males with calcium oxalate stones and IH. This trial is detailed in another article. 

Improves Bone Mineral Balance


To date no trial has tested treatment of IH bone disease, but this one trial concerned menopausal osteoporosis and used high calcium low sodium diet with successful outcomes.

Each of the subjects ate in random order each of high and low calcium and sodium diets, and total bone mineral balance was measured. The time on each diet was long enough to get reliable data.

Calcium absorbed (leftmost bar (blue) for each diet type) was highest on the two high calcium diets (diet types are along the horizontal axis). Loss of calcium in stool and urine (second and third bars from the left (red and gray, respectively) over each diet type) were lowered by low sodium diet (second group of bars from the left over the ‘CA HIGH NA LOW’ caption), and that was the only diet that produced positive balance – black bar above the horizontal dashed line.

Of interest, the high diet calcium was not achieved entirely with foods. Supplemental calcium was used, eaten during the course of the meals. This means for those who cannot get in enough calcium from food it is not unreasonable to use supplements, but they must be taken directly with the meals, not in between or fasting.

Also note that high calcium with high sodium (first block of four bars) did not achieve positive bone balance, so it is not enough to just add calcium. One needs the two diet factors together. This is what the US diet plan attempts to accomplish.

Low Refined Sugar

jack NEJM pictureWe have no trial, but we do have the striking effect of sugars to produce a transient but lofty spike in urine calcium.

Normal people given 100 gm of glucose or sucrose in water increased their urine calcium – the periods numbered below the horizontal line are 20 minutes each so the increase is rapid.

Patients with IH were higher before and higher after the sugar loads. Their family members were the same, because IH is hereditary.

To date no trial has focused on reduced refined sugar per se, nor will this happen. Trials tend toward monotony, the test of things one by one, and sugar is probably not by itself enough of a factor to alter stone formation. But is has its effects, and there is no reason to provoke spikes of urine calcium loss. They will cause a transient rise in supersaturation. Also, since there is no calcium in the sugar drinks the sudden calcium loss in the urine is probably from bone.

Moderate Protein Intake

The US protein intake recommendations appear to be at the lower end of the commonly mentioned 0.8 – 1 gm/kg/d. In the appendices that quantify intakes values plateau at 0.8 mg/kg/d.

plot of deluca vs delnae for fenton and the rest no legendFor stone formers, high protein intakes will indeed increase urine calcium, a matter of no dispute.

The blue points on this graph are from selected balance experiments of considerable duration. The red points are from shorter experiments. They are detailed in the original article.

The main point is that as one increments diet protein the protein provokes an acid load via the oxidation of sulfur from methionine and cystine, and thence a change in net acid excretion (NAE). Correlative to that change is an increase in urine calcium.

Some authorities doubt that the acid load per se is essential for the effect. The paired pentagons are from a single but well done experiment in which protein was given with and without sufficient alkali to abolish the acid load yet both protein feedings equally raised urine calcium. Even so, urine calcium rises with protein loads and higher urine calcium can raise stone risk.

Some important authorities have maintained that the acid load from protein adversely affects bone, whereas others of equal calibre deny this. Rather than pursue the debate here, I refer those interested to the linked primary article on this site.

The US diet proposes large amounts of fruits and vegetables that provide more alkali than we presently get, and that alkali may well offset the acid load from protein. Likewise, the diet asks for moderation of diet protein, so the urine calcium effects will be correspondingly moderated.

Urine Citrate

Urine citrate responds to net acid base balance, and if the moderated protein intake is combined with high organic anion intake from fruits and vegetables urine citrate may well rise. The US proposed diet aims toward a potassium intake of about 112 mEq/d mainly from fruits and vegetables.

These food sources will provide the potassium mainly associated with organic anions that include citrate and, like citrate, are metabolized. Being metabolized in their acid forms,their metabolism produces alkali in the form of bicarbonate will signal the renal citrate transporter to permit more citrate to enter the urine. In other words, the foods will act exactly like potassium citrate given as a medication.

Since our current US potassium intake approximates 60 mEq/d the diet will add about 60 mEq more, or the equivalent of six 10 mEq potassium citrate pills. It is precisely this food phenomenon that is exploited in the common idea of drinking lemonade. But lemonade like all fruit juices can be a source of refined sugars depending on the brand, and lemons vary considerably in citrate content. Likewise lemonade becomes monotonous. An altered diet seems far better,

It is possible that the new US diet guidelines, if enacted, will greatly reduce the need for medicinal potassium citrate, with a corresponding fall in cost and unpleasantness of taking the large pills. Although a trial of such a diet for urine citrate increase, would be desirable, it may never take place there being no obvious financial incentives.

When Should Stone Formers Start the Diet?

The Diet is Recommended for Everyone

relapse-stones-vs-pretreatment-stones-by-treatmentAt the first stone, of course, as it has general health benefits as well as specific and well supported special kidney stone prevention benefits.

More Stones Predicts Poorer Treatment Response

Another reason is that fragmentary data I have gleaned from the many stone trials suggest that waiting may not be an ideal strategy.

On the vertical axis are the percent relapse rates for the treated arms of the trials, plotted against the average number of pre-treatment stones. The names of the trials correspond to references in the detailed article this figure arises in, which is linked below.

Treated ingle stone formers had an about 10 – 12% relapse rate, ‘Mulit’ refers to my published treatment data that used multiple treatments at once. At best my estimates of pretreatment stone averages are coarse because of limited information in the original studies, so the points may well distribute differently. But the general impression will not likely change with details: More stones seems related to higher relapse despite treatment. The other two ‘Multi’ points are accurate, as is the NaKCit point – details were in the paper.

How Should Stone Formers Pursue the Diet?

Like everyone else in the US, of course. The government website is rich in food portion data and advice about diet change. Our patients can enter it with other Americans and essentially swim with the current.

But stones are a disease we want to treat so it is up to us and those who work with us to help. Jill Harris has already written about this matter, and we hope many more stone experts will begin to consider the reality of how to use the diet effectively.


  1. Francis

    I just had kidney stone attack and am adjusting my diet. I mainly read drink a lot of fluids, my question in bottled water, do they have a lot of sodium? will if effect more stones? and can you recommend a brand with less sodium or free of…Thank you.

  2. Christina Hatcher

    Hello Dr. Coe, I’m 61 years old and just had my very first bout with stones that led to me having surgery a couple weeks ago and had to keep a stint in for 6wks….. UGH !!! The day I had the stint removed the Urologist told me he was NOT going to have me go through metabolic testing because this being my first episode with stones, that the chances of getting them again are next to nil ?!?! I’m perplexed and TERRIFIED of going through this again !!!! How can I even begin to be proactive ????? I had 5 small brown irregular calculi fragments with one at 6mm that was badly infected and tore up my right ureter. they gave me a sheet of paper that states : 40% calcium oxalate monohydrate, 10% calcium oxalate dihydrate and 50% calcium phosphate ( hydroxy-and carbonate-apatite ) I have tried to find a renal dietitian to help me understand all of this and I can’t find one in my city that deals with stones only the registered dietitian at the CTCA and she said she ONLY deals with stage 4 renal patients diets……. I JUST WANT TO CRY !!!!! PLEASE advise Dr. Coe !!
    Thank You !!

    • Fredric Coe, MD

      Hi Christina, Indeed, prevention should begin right away especially for a stone that is 50% phosphate. You will need a physician and also serum and 24 hour urine testing. As for nutrition, Jill Harris is ideal and works on the web. Do not delay. Regards, Fred Coe

  3. vickie hixson

    Is this where I can ask a question?

    • vickie hixson

      Hi , I have had two lithotripsy done in this past year. I have had 3 – 24 hr urine test. Can you give me any advice on what you think this last test reveals? My stones were Calcium Oxalate. I really tried to lower oxalates, sodium , and take more calcium although I know I need to increase calcium. Lactose intolerant

      Urine Volume 2.52
      SS CaOx 6.22
      Urine Calcium mg/day) 236
      Urine Oxalate mg/day) 38
      Urine Citrate (mg/day) 942
      24 Hour Urine pH 6.902
      SS CaP 1.62
      SS Uric Acid 0.08
      Urine Uric Acid 0.607
      Thank You

      • Fredric Coe, MD

        Hi VIckie, your urine calcium is a bit high, your oxalate is high enough to raise stone risk appreciably, the volume is fine, I see no sodium. You are right: more diet calcium and get your diet sodium as low as possible and then do another 24 hour urine to see where you are at. Be sure your physician approves of that I just said. Regards, Fred Coe

        • vickie hixson

          Thank you so much, I also have high protein at 1.4 , should I try to lower that by not eating as much meat? I was once told to eat more protein, that my diet was more like a vegetarian. My urine sodium says it’s 100.


          • Fredric Coe, MD

            Hi Vickie, 1.4 gm/kg/day diet protein is very high and will increase urine calcium. You would do better at 0.8 to 1. The urine sodium is at the US tolerable upper limit. Regards, Fred Coe

            • vickie hixson

              Thank you so much, Just one more question. How do I lower the protein levels? Do I just cut back on the amount of meat? Is there a special diet for this?

              Again thanks so much for responding back

              • Fredric Coe, MD

                Hi Vickie, it is just that simple – keep the protein portions moderate. The article you are writing on links to the US recommended diet website that has pictures of typical food portions as a guide. Regards, Fred Coe

    • Fredric Coe, MD

      Hi Vickie, Yes it is. Fred Coe

  4. Jo H

    Thank you for the excellent information here.
    I’m 50, female, and have just passed one 7.5 mm stone and there’s another of 6 mm still in the kidney.
    I’m pescetarian and eat lots of veg, some fruit, no refined sugar or alcohol. I believe the stones have been caused by insufficient calcium (not enough dairy) and too many almonds (three handfuls or so a day — I thought they were a healthy snack). I was reasonably hydrated but could have done much better. Would lots of water (3 l), 1200 mg calcium and no more nuts or spinach be sufficient or do I need to drop to under 50 mg oxalate a day?
    Many thanks,

    • Fredric Coe, MD

      Hi Jo H, You need to do the whole diet – high calcium, low sodium etc. The high calcium will drop your oxalate a lot. Diet oxalate can then be adjusted as needed. Very low sodium will protect against the high diet calcium and get it into your bones. Regards, Fred Coe

  5. Daniel F

    I lift weights at the gym and like to eat protein, especially meat and fish, to help build/ maintain muscle. I am 6′ 2″ 170 pounds at age 65. Your article calls for moderate protein intake. My recent urine oxalate is 81 (over time varies from 46 to 97); SS CaOx is 6.0; pH 6.37. Your article says increased fruits and vegetables may help moderate the protein effects. Should I also cut back on my protein intake? Many thanks.

    • Fredric Coe, MD

      Hi Daniel, massive protein loading will raise urine calcium – a lot and can cause stones. It can raise urine oxalate. Frankly your urine oxalate is so high I wonder if you have a low calcium diet. Check that out by thinking about what you eat. Fruits and veggies will moderate the acid load from protein but not the calcium wasting. Regards, Fred Coe

  6. Tiffany

    Hello Dr Coe,
    I have leaned to live with kidney stones for years now. I have recently been told that sugars may be causing my stones. Also, recently my hip bones have been tender and I think it is related to my kidney stones some how, could there be a correlation?

    • Fredric Coe, MD

      Hi Tiffany, Sugars can raise urine calcium and promote stones. Hip tenderness per so has no obvious relationship to stones. But perhaps you might want to have a bone scan to check your bone mineral density. Regards, Fred Coe

  7. judy marshall

    oh my goodness, so much information. this is my 2nd time with stones. and the pain is so bad–as we all know. now i need to take all this information and figure out just what i should eat. i also have diabeties and acid reflex–so i need to watch what i eat for that. thanks again, will post inf later.

  8. Diana Thompson

    Hi, I am just wondering which calcium supplement would be best to prevent calcium oxalate stones or if it even matters? (Calcium citrate, calcium carbonate, etc)

    • Fredric Coe, MD

      Hi Diana, high diet calcium from food is important for everyone. Stone formers benefit because such a diet lowers urine oxalate and also protects against late life bone fractures. Food is best, but if that is impossible then supplements can be used to make up the total of 1200 mg daily. They should be taken with main meals. Carbonate or citrate are the same. Regards, Fred Coe

  9. Martin Kenley

    Apparently saturated fat, and animal protein have a great deal to do with kidney stones per these per reviewed studies: C R Tracy, S Best, A Bagrodia, J R Poindexter, B Adams-Huet, K Sakhaee, N Maalouf, C Y Pak, M S Pearle. Animal protein and the risk of kidney stones: a comparative metabolic study of animal protein sources. J Urol. 2014 Jul;192(1):137-41. doi: 10.1016/j.juro.2014.01.093 and I P Heilberg, D S Goldfarb. Optimum nutrition for kidney stone disease. Adv Chronic Kidney Dis. 2013 Mar;20(2):165-74. doi: 10.1053/j.ackd.2012.12.001.

    • Fredric Coe, MD

      Dear Martin, Thank you for the thoughtful remarks. I know the papers and their authors are friends of mine. I do not exactly share their emphasis and by now they know that. But since you have brought the matter up I will update my treatment of protein and summarize the matter in the article on the site you are commenting on. As for saturated fat, I will reread their work – at best associations will be epidemiological or relate to uric acid stones. I doing my review articles on diet I knew in advance that my disinterest in low protein diet, animal vs plant protein, and fats in general was outre. None of my friends have thought enough of it to speak up in public, so I have decided the matter does not exercise them overly. Much obliged to you. Keep an eye on the site whenever you have some spare moments and you will see the extra materials. Regards, Fred Coe

  10. Al R.

    Hi Dr. Coe,
    Regarding, “Refined sugar causes spikes of high urine calcium excretion. Excessive protein intake raises urine calcium.”
    Can you please tell me if you have any thoughts or rules of thumb regarding how eating three larger meals vs. similar food spread more evenly across smaller meals and significant snacks (or say 6 oz of poultry in one meal vs. divided between two) might affect 24 hour supersaturations?
    And more importantly, whether spikes following a large meal likely increase actual stone risk more than the 24 hour averages might indicate?
    Thanks again, Al

    • Fredric Coe, MD

      Hi Al, I think spreading out portions seems wiser – but no data. Refined sugar is entirely a pest and we are better off with as little as possible. Sans data one never knows but peaks buried in 24 hour urines may well maintain new stone formation even when the 24 hour averages look reassuring. Fred


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